March 2007

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Chassis Stripping

Having removed the body and completed the main body welding work I turned my attention to stripping the chassis of the engine, suspension and rear axle in order to find out what would need to be replaced. Having the bare chassis let me stand it on its side in order to work on the underside.

Engine & Gearbox 

The first thing was to get the engine out of the car and the first step was to get the head off. It was found to be an MGB 1800 head that are supposed to be interchangeable with MGA blocks.

 

Up to this point in time the engine had not turned over and appeared to be seized but in taking the head off I found that the valves on cylinder 2 were frozen. 

With the head off the engine turned over with no problems at all by hand.

Next step was to get the head studs out and the push rods and tappets. One tappet was found to be badly pitted - one of cylinder 2's. Note block is marked as a 1600 and has the original engine number.

 

Looking at the sump it was obvious that the car has either been jacked up on it or the car had suffered damage in the past from  an off road excursion. The chassis has collision damage underneath as well.

With the sump off the damage to the sump was passed on to the oil strainer that is split and possibly cracked or bent. 

I continued dismantling the engine by getting the pistons out so that I could see the block bores and piston rings. This is when I discovered that number 2 piston was non MGA. You can see from the picture that it is a more slender shape the the other 3. This will not have helped the balance of the engine.

Here is a close up of the odd piston & conrod (lower) compared to the original piston & conrods at the top. It is probably an MGB conrod so I am now looking for a second hand MGA 1600 conrod and cap. Any offers?

The engine seized through a sticking valve. Above is the top surface of the stuck valve cam follower. You can clearly see the impact damage caused by the pushrod. The rest are unmarked. Apologies for the poor picture quality

They will all be checked for cracks and replaced as required.

The gearbox showed the usual signs of oil leakage from the crank and just the normal signs of wear and tear to the clutch release mechanism.

The clutch release arm was in a good condition. The release bearing will be replaced along with the pivot bushing that shows the usually oval wear pattern of old age. Apologies again for the poor quality of the picture.

 

Front Suspension 

Step 1 in dismantling was to get the brake caliper off. This  side was easy but the other was frozen on and had to be hammered off some time ago in order to be able to roll the car around. You need a puller to get the hubs off as shown above. 

 

Both came off nicely after taking off the castle nuts and split pins revealing clean spindles

Next step was to use a trolley jack under the lower suspension pan and raise it until it starts to compress the spring without lifting the chassis. The lower fulcrum bolt is then unbolted and knocked out as in the above picture

Once the bolted is knocked right out using a drift to get it to clear the lower wishbone arms and the lower steering trunnion on the end of the kingpin, the jack is slowly lowered. The lower wishbone arms should free themselves from the lower trunnion being forced down by the spring as in the above picture

 

The jack is completely lowered off and removed. At this point the lower arm can be manually pivoted down out of the way and the steering spindle/kingpin assembly rotated out wards pivoting on the upper damper arms. At this point the spring can be removed

As you can see from the above I discovered that one of my springs had broken at the top inside the upper 'turret' where it is located. I have read that this happens when the spring stops being able to rotate? I did not even realise that they were supposed to rotate.

Taking the kingpin assembly off is a simple matter of unbolting and drifting out the top pin from the shock absorber arms. The shock absorber, bump rubber/spacer and spring locator disc inside the turret are simply unbolted and mine came off easily for a change. The lower suspension arms pivot on a fulcrum bar bolted to the chassis. Its easier to take the full assembly off and then dismantle it. Its the triangular piece in the picture to the left. 

 

The lower suspension arms unbolt from the triangular pan. I have included the picture above to illustrate how the kingpin bolt holes in the arms can elongate themselves through wear and poor maintenance.  Most wear and corrosion issues always occur on the components that face the front and get the most exposure to the elements. This leads to woolly feeling steering and eventual failure

 

This is the lower suspension fulcrum arm that the lower suspension arms are bolted to. Again you can see that the end facing the front is badly coroded compared to the opposite end that was facing the rear. 

 

The above bushes came from the inner ends of the lower suspension arms and here you can clearly see how they became worn and the holes go from being circular to oval

Here is one of my steering/kingpin assemblies. Again the lower end of the kingpin has been badly corroded compared to the top portion

Here is on of my lower steering trunnions that screw on to the bottom of the kingpins. You can just make out the corrosion damage to the thread on the inside of the fitting facing us. You can also see that there is damage to bearing sleeve in the other hole.  Barney Gaylords website has masses of useful data and tips about dealing with suspension including rebushing and reaming suspension trunnions. The Tech Index is a goldmine for anyone restoring and running an MGA and I highly recommend it to everyone.

http://www.mgaguru.com/mgtech/suspensn/susp1.htm

The thread that the car steers on and that holds the trunnions on the kingpin is an ACME type with a flat top to thread and in my case the corrosion on the lower half of both kingpins and the lower trunnions was excessive and for safety reasons I have gone for replacing the kingpins and all trunnions. This requires some serious machine press capabilities and is not something that can be done in the garage at home. I will let you know how I get on with this later on. There have been cases where cracks have been found in the suspension components and it is recommended that you have all suspension components crack tested. Its not worth risking a failure at 70MPH.

 

As a footnote I thought that you might like to see the state of one of my calipers complete with spiders web. As you can see the pistons are out as far as they can go and that the car was just about out of brake material on the pads. Needless to say the pistons are frozen. The two assemblies will be restored professionally, again for safety reasons.

 

Back Axle

Removing the back axle was a challenge thanks to completely seized bolts in areas where you could not get to with a saw. On the left is the chassis on its side. The garage is getting crowded now. On the right the axle minus leaf springs, drained ready for stripping/ 

I've included these pictures for those not familiar with the basic axle assembly. Above is the back of one hub showing the simple layout. The rod is from the handbrake system and the pipe is the hydraulic line to the brake piston.

Here is the front of the same hub with the wheel off

Here is the same hub with the brake drum removed showing the simple single brake piston that forces the brake shoes out. Note the retaining spring positions and the adjusting mechanism on the other end of the brake cylinder

Here is the inside of the brake drum and shows that it is relatively clean and not scored so at least this part has survived without damage. The brakes shoes have been removed and placed in the drum.

Back to the rear. To get the brake piston out step one is to disconnect the handbrake linkage and the hydraulic pipe. There is a large bolt that secures a banjo connection that incorporates a bleed nipple. The brake cylinder slides within the cutout of the back plate 

Next step is to remove the protective rubber from around the back of the brake cylinder. The arm is the hand brake lever arm that mechanically pushes on the brake piston. 

The brake cylinder can now be slide backwards, tipped outwards and removed from the front of the back plate. It seems as if it does not come out this way but it does and needs perseverance to do it. Dont force it in any way. It should come out by hand force only.

The above shows a clean back plate. The top brake shoe pivot point is a normal bolt connection. The lower brake cylinder slide opening shows how it is wider for half its length. When you move the cylinder to the wider end of the slot and rotate it at the same time, it will come out as if by magic

To get the half shafts out is a simple process of taking two pry bars and gently levering the end plate up the wheel retaining bolts. The plate is welded to the axle and the whole axle should now slide out. 

Here is the half shaft probably out for the first time in 50 years. I have the normal 25 spline type. Both were in good condition and showed no sign of damage

Make sure you keep the oil seal that will probably be stuck to the bearing safe and sound. Note the large retaining nut. One bearing is rough and  I will be changing both. Watch this space to see how I handle using the specialised eight sided box spanner.

Here is the differential unit. I have to do a detailed examination of this but visually it looks ok. I found no metal in the axles oil and I could not detect any back lash any where which surprised me for an old car so I suspect that it has been over hauled at some stage.

Chassis Restoration

Here is the bare chassis ready for restoration. Its nice to be able to put it on its side and work stand up for a change. My back appreciates it as well. I did some basic checks to see if there was any twist or visible distortion anywhere. There was damage to the main tubular crossmember and one set of front extension connector brackets appears to be 1/2 inch higher than the other side. Everything else checked out within tolerances . Phew

 

Here is the dent in the tubular cross member that was an easy cut and weld fix. This appears to be a common dent on MGA's

This is the square cross member and it has the usual rust through areas. The whole surrounding are was checked to determine the extent of the rust.

The rust was cut out, the square box section reinforced and new metal welded in

The square cross member was capped off again. It had lost its original cap at some point in its past. Fortunately the rust in the cross member was not terminal and repairable.

 

Here is one of the rear body mounts (the one that you have to be a contortionist to get to. If my body lines up with these mounts I will sacrifice a chicken (a frozen one that is). Fortunately there was enough left of the old one on this side to repair and reinforce it. Note the tubular caping was missing from here as well.

 

On the left is the state of the chassis on the other side with a substantial rust hole already apparent. On the left is the rust section cut out along with rust in the firewall support member and and an area around the body mounting bolt.

Here are the repair pieces welded in and on the right the same area dressed and primed.

 

 

On the left is the area around the front rear suspension mounting points is a common area where the floor rails rust away to nothing. You can see how bad this area was on my car from the picture above. With the chassis on its side I was able to clean up the area around the front rear suspension bracket. The bracket itself was sound.  You can see rust damage to the rear floor board support bracket as well.

 

On the left is the same area ready to receive replacement sections. At this stage I had removed all the rusted floor board support rails. On the right is the rear floor board replacement piece ready for welding in.

On the left, the next floor board support repair piece is in ready for welding. This piece follows the curve of the chassis and closes the gap between the floor board rail and the chassis. It links up with the rear and new side floor board support rails. On the right is the finished area showing how it neatly fits to the rear suspension front mounting bracket

On the left is the poor condition of the back board support plates and on the right is on of the repair pieces in place. For some reason you can't get these repair pieces in the UK and I had to go the Moss US to get them.  I ended up replacing both together with part of the rear floor board support rail

I have included these two pictures to show you how bad things can look. My floor board rails looked like this at the begining. It takes a lot of effort to cut out all the old rusted metal and get it prepared ready for welding

Here is the chassis with the new floorboard rails welded in. Generally the replacement rails were not too bad and just needed trimming to length. Just when I thought I was finished with the rails I discovered some rust in the front floorboard support rails. More on this next time.

and Finally..........

Coming soon - seat restoration for beginners..........like me 

 

 

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